PH series 3 definitly cancelled...DDM going back to blind?

Ghengis Ska · **Posted:** 01/13/10 6:15:19 pm

Vilnias_Nastavni asked the same question and from the few i have seen from like 4-20, depending on size and material (the above theif mini can be bought out of "stainless steel" for $19 his base price is about $6.

Harneloot · **Posted:** 01/13/10 8:30:35 pm

Herschel wrote:

Harneloot wrote:

Thank you Kilsek, for demonstrating how to disagree with a post without being rude or insulting!

:clap:

LoL, you've been obnoxiously denegrating the new edition and it's players since it came out suddenly claiming the moral high ground now that you're getting a little of it back?

Like what you want, have fun with whatever game you desire, but 3E was dead from a WotC sales figure standpoint. Enjoy the fact that Paizo doesn't need the numbers WotC does and decided they could supply the smaller market niche while WotC produces products that cross over editions.

Stating your opinion about a system (however loudly and/or however much others find it contrary to their own), or your observations of people and their preferences in your area that you game with is quite different from attacking those opinions and observations made by others, which is what has suddenly started happening here at DDMSpoilers.

Its attacking others that makes someone a douche-bag (and possibly an idiot to boot)

DROW · **Posted:** 01/13/10 8:35:22 pm

yep. never should have changed the format IMO. it was great for the RPGs :dance:

,but not that great for the skirmish game,or the collection based buyer :pbbbtt:

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DROW,aka WORD on Vassal

gruber · **Posted:** 01/13/10 9:36:21 pm

And what about Streets of Shadows? If DDM is going back to blind-booster, maybe it re-starts with this next series.

Vilnias_Nastavnik · **Posted:** 01/14/10 12:07:30 am

Someone was looking for a free 3-D graphics program compatible with Shapeways and I think I found a like for an open source program here:

http://www.osalt.com/blender

and here:

http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/

I looked and it's on the list Shapeways has on their site for programs. I will be playing around with it and seeing what it does, but if someone figures it out faster, let me know.

Tiberias7 · **Posted:** 01/14/10 10:08:49 am

gruber wrote:

And what about Streets of Shadows? If DDM is going back to blind-booster, maybe it re-starts with this next series.

I would love to see skirmish pass from the Guild back to Wizards. Don't count on it though. The Guild stat cards are a shame 

Avin · **Posted:** 01/14/10 10:48:12 am

Opinions may vary,

for me D&D skirmish was a waste of resources, should never had existed (unless was created by a 3rd party) and never should go back to Wizards.

I'm not a wargammer. Have lots of friends who like it, tho.

Tiberias7 · **Posted:** 01/14/10 10:56:54 am

Avin wrote:

Opinions may vary,

for me D&D skirmish was a waste of resources, should never had existed (unless was created by a 3rd party) and never should go back to Wizards.

I'm not a wargammer. Have lots of friends who like it, tho.

I think your opinion on skirmish is very close to how Wizards sees it. They felt it pulled resources from the RPG. The only hope, faint- so very faint, there is that Wizards would take back skirmish is that sales were better when skirmish was part if the mini line. I always have felt in business you cater to your support base. The sucess of the Guild (sigh) shows that there is a skirmish base out there.

Vilnias_Nastavnik · **Posted:** 01/14/10 11:06:19 am

Tiberias7 wrote:

Avin wrote:

Opinions may vary,

for me D&D skirmish was a waste of resources, should never had existed (unless was created by a 3rd party) and never should go back to Wizards.

I'm not a wargammer. Have lots of friends who like it, tho.

I think your opinion on skirmish is very close to how Wizards sees it. They felt it pulled resources from the RPG. The only hope, faint- so very faint, there is that Wizards would take back skirmish is that sales were better when skirmish was part if the mini line. I always have felt in business you cater to your support base. The sucess of the Guild (sigh) shows that there is a skirmish base out there.

So following that logic, WOTC can go back to blind DDM with only the RPG cards they include now, leave all the skirmish rules work to the Guild (lowering their overhead and maintaining resources for the RPG line) and increase their profits, sounds like corporate thinking to me!

Tiberias7 · **Posted:** 01/14/10 11:27:57 am

Warning. You sensitive, touchy-feely, folk might be offended at what I say next 

Good point above except that, IMO, the guild is not the same as Wizards and their stuff is...okay- at best.

Kilsek · **Posted:** 01/14/10 11:40:26 am

Tiberias7 wrote:

Good point above except that, IMO, the guild is not the same as Wizards and their stuff is...okay- at best.

That has been said a few times. Johny and the crew do their best, but when you compare them to the resources of WOTC well then WOTC wins hands down.

greyhaze · **Posted:** 01/14/10 11:51:26 am

Really? I've seen a lot of complaints about wotc stats along the long road we've traveled - the "allstars" as an example. Entire bins of "useless" miniatures with subpar stats.

Haven't heard much complaining about the Guild other than from Tiberius7. ymmv

Ghendar · **Posted:** 01/14/10 12:40:29 pm

greyhaze wrote:

Really? I've seen a lot of complaints about wotc stats along the long road we've traveled - the "allstars" as an example. Entire bins of "useless" miniatures with subpar stats.

Haven't heard much complaining about the Guild other than from Tiberius7. ymmv

T7's guild hate knows no bounds.

And you're right. It appears to be his very own special snowflake smear campaign.

Herschel · **Posted:** 01/14/10 12:44:04 pm

Harneloot wrote:

Stating your opinion about a system (however loudly and/or however much others find it contrary to their own), or your observations of people and their preferences in your area that you game with is quite different from attacking those opinions and observations made by others, which is what has suddenly started happening here at DDMSpoilers.

Its attacking others that makes someone a douche-bag (and possibly an idiot to boot)

You've been attacking since the beginning, not just stating your opinion. You're obviously not bright enough to understand the superior tactical aspects of 4E. Then you could make an informed point of not liking it, but you can't. Many people understand both systems, their strengths and weaknesses, and choose based on that. You obviously have not. When you do, get back to me. Until then maybe you should STFU.

greyhaze · **Posted:** 01/14/10 12:46:48 pm

Ok, warning is going out - you're both being douche-bags, that's fine, but no calling each other douche-bags. You can argue til you're blue in the face, throw arbitrary arguments/opinions around and debate all you like though. Savvy?

:hoppingmad:

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